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HomeMy WebLinkAbout111300 OTLRB MinutesOTLRB Iminutes/l 11300 CALL TO ORDER MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE OLD TOWN TEMECULA LOCAL REVIEW BOARD NOVEMBER 13, 2000 The Old Town Temecula Local Review Board convened in a regular meeting at 9:04 A.M., on Monday, November 13, 2000, in the Community Development Conference Room of Temecula City Hail, 43200 Business Park Drive, Temecula, California. ROLL CALL Present: Absent: Also Present: Board Members Allen, Blair, *Montgomery, and Chairman Harker. Board Member Ross, and Alternate Board Member Perkins. Assistant Planner Anders, Redevelopment Director Meyer, and Minute Clerk Hansen *(It was noted that Board Member Montgomery arrived at 9:12 A.M.) PUBLIC DISCUSSION No comments. BOARD BUSINESS 1. Approval of Minutes - October 9, 2000 MOTION: Board Member Allen moved to approve the minutes. The motion was seconded by Board Member Blair and voice vote reflected approval with the exception of Board Members Montgomery and Ross who were absent. 2. Old Business a. Old Town Plaza (Sign Program) 28410 Old Town Front Street It was noted that Board Member Montgomery arrived at 9:12 A.M. Associate Planner Anders relayed that she had reviewed the comprehensive sign program for this site and was pleased with the policy, advising that staff would utilize the plan as an example of a good comprehensive sign program for future use. Mr. Walt Allen, representing the applicant, provided an overview of the sign plan for the 0id Town Plaza, noting that the sign policy (per agenda material) should be modified on page 2, in the second bullet, and in Section B, in the fourth bullet, specifying that the language should indicate that the color shall be limited to four colors, in lieu of three colors, as indicated; presented the attached exhibits (as per agenda material), noting that exhibit C denoted fonts to OTLRBIminute~lll300 be utilized which were, period appropriate; and introduced Mr. Tom Maxwell, one of the applicants for this site. Associate Planner Anders noted that this particular sign policy summarized the Old Town Specific Plan sign criteria, and incorporated the new modifications (per the recent approved amendment); recommended that there be a clarification with respect to Exhibits A, B, and C; and commented that the policy provided a detailed analysis, clarifying the expected standards for each tenant. Board Member Blair queried the supergraphics description (denoted in the policy on page 1, under the third bullet entitled Business Supergraphics), where it stated painted or painted metal cutout supergraphic signs mounted one-and-a-half inches away from the stucco surface. In response, Mr. Allen noted that to the best of his recollection this language was quoted from the Specific Plan. After investigating the Specific Plan, Associate Planner Anders relayed that it appeared that the intent of the language was for supergraphics to solely be painted, querying if Mr. Allen had any alternate reference, which allowed for painted metal cutouts. Mr. Allen noted that at this point in time he could not recall the reference in the Old Town' Specific Plan regarding painted metal cutout supergraphics. For Associate Planner Anders, Mr. Maxwell relayed that at this point there was no plan to utilize painted metal cutouts. Mr. Allen advised that if the metal cutouts were permitted via the Specific Plan, that he would desire to maintain the language in the policy, noting that if the metal was not allowed the applicant would be agreeable to removing this language from the policy. In response to Associate Planner Anders, Mr. Allen concurred that if staff and he could not locate the permitting of painted metal cut-outs as supergraphics in the Specific Plan that it would be stricken from the policy. Additional discussion ensued regarding supergraphics and the intent of the associated language of the Specific Plan, Redevelopment Director Meyer recommending that since supergraphics would need to come back to the Board for approval, that if at a future point there was a creative supergraphic which was painted on cutout metal that the Board review these proposals on a case-by-case basis, when presented. Mr. Allen suggested striking the parenthetical regarding supergraphics which stated or painted metal cutout. Mr. Maxwell provided additional information regarding the discussions regarding utilizing the painted metal cutout for the Circle K use. After additional discussion, Mr. Allen and Mr. Maxwell were agreeable to strike the language from the policy referring to supergraphics on painted metal cutouts. MOTION: Board Member Montgomery moved to approve the Old Town Plaza Sign Program. The motion was seconded by Board Member Blair and voice vote reflected approval with the exception of Board Member Ross who was absent and Board Member Allen who abstained. 3. New Business a. Rhythm & Brews (Wall Sign) 40915 Third Street Mr. Montgomery, the applicant, provided an overview of the proposed signage for the Rhythm & Brews use, noting that it would be constructed out of a copper metal material, specifying the dimensions; relayed that the sign would be similar to the Longbranch Antique Company signage; and noted that the use would solely be permitted to have an interim banner for 45 days, advising that it was vital that the sign be completed expeditiously, relaying that due to time constraints he may not be able to use the services of Mr. Bob Morris. For Associate Planner Anders, Mr. Montgomery relayed that he did not have provision of a material sample board; noted that he was reluctant to utilize the patina affect due the tendency for the natural metal to turn a bluish-green color, relaying that there were methods of sealing the metal that he was still investigating; and advised that the signage could potentially be constructed of tin in order to control the coloring. In response to Board Member Allen, Mr. Montgomery relayed that the material would be straight sheet metal. Board Member Allen noted that allowing the natural patina to occur with the copper metal would have a positive visual appearance. For Associate Planner Anders, Mr. Montgomery noted that the Longbranch Antique Company's signage was painted. Board Member Blair suggested approving the conceptual design and bringing back the item before the Board at the point in time when there were provisions of color and material samples. For Bard Member Blair, Mr. Montgomery provided additional information regarding the signage. Associate Planner Anders recommended photographing the metal against the wood material on the building in order to review the material proposed on the actual building. MOTION: Board Member Blair moved to approve the signage subject to the Board reviewing the color and materials that will be utilized. The motion was seconded by Board Member Allen and voice vote reflected approval with the exception of Board Members Ross who was absent and Board Member Montgomery who abstained. At this time the Board heard Agenda Item No, 5 due to Redevelopment Director Meyer's time schedule and the need for him to attend an alternate meeting. 5. Board Discussion a. Old Town Theater Project Status (John Meyer- Redevelopment Director) Redevelopment Director Meyer provided an update with respect to the Old town Theater Project, noting that the architect had completed the programming stage which entailed obtaining the various entities (theater groups who would be utilizing the facility) desired elements for the Theater Project; relayed that subsequently the architect compiled a list of these elements and the cost of the project inclusive of all of those elements, relaying that the cost would be approximately $3.4 million; noted that at this point $2.5 million has been budgeted for the project, advising that the $3.4 million estimate was not unexpected; relayed that there were discussions regarding addressing the desired elements of Mount San Jacinto College who has expressed an interest in running their performing arts program at the theater, noting their desire for a 500-seat theater; advised that the direction at this point was to move forward into the schematic phase, designing a 300-seat theater; and relayed that in the next 30-40 days floor plans will be designed which will be presented to the Old Town Theater Advisory Committee, the Old Town Local Review Board, the Planning Commission, and ultimately to the City Council. Associate Planner Anders relayed that when the plans were ready staff could mail the information to the Board Members, and if necessary hold a Special meeting for review of this project. In response to Chairman Harker, Redevelopment Director Meyer relayed that the project could potentially be completed in 18 months; noted that the Theater Foundation has pledged $1 million towards the project of which approximately a third has been raised; and provided additional information regarding the potential height of the theater. · Old Town Project Update For informational purposes, Redevelopment Director Meyer relayed that the City had purchased the Old Town Trading Post for a future Children's Museum site, noting that Director of Community Services Parker was in the process of preliminary negotiations with the consultant for the design, fabrication, and installation of exhibits. Redevelopment Director Meyer additionally relayed that the City was under construction for public parking lot improvements in Old Town (i.e., the Stamped parking lot). At this time the Board resumed the regular order of the Agenda, considering Agenda Item No. 4. 4. Consultation · Palomar Inn Consultation Mr. Walt Allen, representing the applicant, introduced Mr. Carlos Palmer, the applicant; presented to the Board the modified plans for the site, consulting the Board for general direction; relayed that the project would be constructed in three phases (noted that the Phase Ill was a long-term plan); via site plans, specified the preliminary design of the proposal; and noted the desire to accommodate the guests of the inn with provision of adequate parking. For Board Member Blair, Associate Planner Anders relayed that provision of parking was not mandated in this portion of Old Town. Via photographs, Mr. Allen relayed that the rear building would be demolished and re-built; noted that the front portion of the building would be primarily maintained; provided the dimensions of the ground floor plan (per supplemental agenda material), relaying that this area was the historic portion of the building; for Board Member Blair, advised that it would be a 2- story building; provided an overview of the upper floor plan (per supplemental provision of the OTt. RB Irnlnutes/111300 elevation plan); for Board Member Montgomery, advised that the plan was to initiate Phase II of the construction plan prior to the completion of Phase I; clarified that the primary modifications to the previously presented plan were as follows: 1) that above the commercial kitchen area that would be a deck whereas previously there were two additional rooms proposed, and 2) the plan to demolish the rear building and to rebuild a new one, whereas in the previous plan the rear building was planned to be salvaged and re-modeled; provided the rationale for proposing maintaining the rear building in the previous plan; noted the historic value of the Palomar Inn building, relaying that it had been built between 1912-1923, providing information regarding architecture of this era; noted the applicant's desire to maintain the existing front fa(~ade, relaying the consideration to utilize a combination Mission/Monterey style of architecture, providing photographs of similar architecture style in Old Town San Diego; noted the plan to have a Mexican-styled dining area, specifying the covered dining area in the courtyard, and the patio outdoor bar area; provided the proposed color schemes for the building which at this point were consistent with the approved color palette; and for Board member Blair, noted the desire to deviate from the color palette in order to implement brighter festive accent colors consistent with a Mexican motif. Boar Member Montgomery relayed that in his opinion, it would be appropriate to deviate from the color palette for this type of Mexican motif. For information purposes, Chairman Harker relayed that the Rosa's Cantina use had been required to mute the colors initially utilized at that site. For Chairman Harker, Mr. Allen relayed a desire for the Board to comment generally on the appropriateness, the scope and nature of the project, and to provide input regarding any negative elements the Board would not recommend implementing. Mr. Carlos Palmer provided an overview of the preliminary sign plan. Associate Planner Anders relayed that the preliminary plans were excellent, noting that the interior courtyard proposal appeared to have an inviting, warm element. Additional discussion ensued regarding utilizing colors, which deviated from the color palette based on this particular project's Mexican motif. Associate Planner Anders relayed the importance of the use of color, noting the necessity to use balance. It was the consensus of the Board that the proposed modifications to the site plan would be an improvement to the original plans, noting that the completed project, as proposed, would be an asset to Old Town. Update on the status of the Old Town Plaza Project For informational purposes, Mr. Walt Allen, representing the applicant, updated the Board with respect to the major modifications to the previous fa(;ade improvement plan at the Old Town Plaza (the Circle K Center), advising that due to budget constraints the center will solely be re- textured with a new color; and requested the Board to visit the site in order to review the three stucco samples, and to provide input back to staff. 5 OTLRB Iminutes/111300 5. Board Discussion Old Town Theater Project Status (John Meyer-Redevelopment Director) This Agenda Item was heard out of order; see page 3. 6. Staff Approvals Associate Planner Anders relayed that efforts were continuing with respect to sign enforcement in Old Town. ADJOURNMENT At 10:58 A.M. Chairman Harker formally adjourned this meeting to Monday, December 200Q, at 9:00 A. M., in the Community Development Conference Room of Temecula City Hall, 43200 Business Park Drive, Temecula, California. Chairman William Harker Associate Planner Patricia Anders